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		<title>Comment on The Evolution of Cascadian Dark..er&#8230;India Brown&#8230;er.. by capflu</title>
		<link>http://oakes.hoppress.com/2010/03/04/the-evolution-of-cascadian-dark-er-india-brown-er/comment-page-1/#comment-281</link>
		<dc:creator>capflu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should talk with Matt about the origins of the Black Toque name - there may yet be a Cascadian name to front the the style name...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should talk with Matt about the origins of the Black Toque name &#8211; there may yet be a Cascadian name to front the the style name&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Evolution of Cascadian Dark..er&#8230;India Brown&#8230;er.. by CharlesDarwin</title>
		<link>http://oakes.hoppress.com/2010/03/04/the-evolution-of-cascadian-dark-er-india-brown-er/comment-page-1/#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>CharlesDarwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have long sought to rid Ratebeer of geographic style names except where absolutely necessary (e.g. Berliner Weisse), because geographic style names run counter to the prevailing trend of globalization in craft beer style.&quot;

How neoliberal of you. While craft beer may be globalizing, maintaining a stance of scrubbing out geographic variation intentionally only goes to help homogenize and sanitize the subtle variations in how different cultures adopt a phenomenon that is becoming more global. By doing this, we may lose out on unique adaptations of beer styles. How else did styles like Southern English Brown, Biere de Garde, or, as you mention, Berliner Weisse arise?

That being said, you make a good point about resiliency. And at the same time that it&#039;s foolish to jump on flash-in-the-pan style bandwagons, it might be equally as foolish to preemptively exclude, or speak out against, certain trends, especially based on recipe. If a group of regional brewers, over a period of time, produce a relatively distinct style regularly and with intention, then it may be worth consideration, not denigration.

And, I find your stance somewhat surprising, considering the amount of attention you&#039;ve give Bia Hoi, an example of how regional adaptation of a foreign beer has evolved into a distinct culture and product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have long sought to rid Ratebeer of geographic style names except where absolutely necessary (e.g. Berliner Weisse), because geographic style names run counter to the prevailing trend of globalization in craft beer style.&#8221;</p>
<p>How neoliberal of you. While craft beer may be globalizing, maintaining a stance of scrubbing out geographic variation intentionally only goes to help homogenize and sanitize the subtle variations in how different cultures adopt a phenomenon that is becoming more global. By doing this, we may lose out on unique adaptations of beer styles. How else did styles like Southern English Brown, Biere de Garde, or, as you mention, Berliner Weisse arise?</p>
<p>That being said, you make a good point about resiliency. And at the same time that it&#8217;s foolish to jump on flash-in-the-pan style bandwagons, it might be equally as foolish to preemptively exclude, or speak out against, certain trends, especially based on recipe. If a group of regional brewers, over a period of time, produce a relatively distinct style regularly and with intention, then it may be worth consideration, not denigration.</p>
<p>And, I find your stance somewhat surprising, considering the amount of attention you&#8217;ve give Bia Hoi, an example of how regional adaptation of a foreign beer has evolved into a distinct culture and product.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Evolution of Cascadian Dark..er&#8230;India Brown&#8230;er.. by Beer for the Daddy</title>
		<link>http://oakes.hoppress.com/2010/03/04/the-evolution-of-cascadian-dark-er-india-brown-er/comment-page-1/#comment-276</link>
		<dc:creator>Beer for the Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting read, Josh.  I have never really thought about it before, but I think I have to agree about geographic names really being limited.  If a style was truly born in one specific area, then I think it works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting read, Josh.  I have never really thought about it before, but I think I have to agree about geographic names really being limited.  If a style was truly born in one specific area, then I think it works.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Evolution of Cascadian Dark..er&#8230;India Brown&#8230;er.. by nobleraconteur</title>
		<link>http://oakes.hoppress.com/2010/03/04/the-evolution-of-cascadian-dark-er-india-brown-er/comment-page-1/#comment-275</link>
		<dc:creator>nobleraconteur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Hoppy Dark Beer suits well. It is what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Hoppy Dark Beer suits well. It is what it is.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Evolution of Cascadian Dark..er&#8230;India Brown&#8230;er.. by beershine</title>
		<link>http://oakes.hoppress.com/2010/03/04/the-evolution-of-cascadian-dark-er-india-brown-er/comment-page-1/#comment-274</link>
		<dc:creator>beershine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent reflection and explanation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent reflection and explanation</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Evolution of Cascadian Dark..er&#8230;India Brown&#8230;er.. by Joe McPhee</title>
		<link>http://oakes.hoppress.com/2010/03/04/the-evolution-of-cascadian-dark-er-india-brown-er/comment-page-1/#comment-273</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe McPhee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 13:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, Josh.  I appreciate the effort of the PNW to have their own style (hell... I love the PNW), but this style ain&#039;t it.  Even Dogfish Head had one all the way back in 2000.  There just aren&#039;t many new styles out there, although I can imagine some segmentation as American brewers continue to experiment with souring beers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, Josh.  I appreciate the effort of the PNW to have their own style (hell&#8230; I love the PNW), but this style ain&#8217;t it.  Even Dogfish Head had one all the way back in 2000.  There just aren&#8217;t many new styles out there, although I can imagine some segmentation as American brewers continue to experiment with souring beers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vancouver, 2 years later by Beer for the Daddy</title>
		<link>http://oakes.hoppress.com/2010/02/25/vancouver-2-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-258</link>
		<dc:creator>Beer for the Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have very fond memories of a trip to BC as a kid with my dad, and watching all of the Olympic coverage and the side stories about the city and surrounding areas have moved it way up my list of places to visit.  With an emerging Beer Scene, that earns it extra points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have very fond memories of a trip to BC as a kid with my dad, and watching all of the Olympic coverage and the side stories about the city and surrounding areas have moved it way up my list of places to visit.  With an emerging Beer Scene, that earns it extra points.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vancouver, 2 years later by Brooha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brooha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imbibe had a recent issue that really explored the Vancouver bar scene really well.  It&#039;s at home now but I&#039;ll try to dig up the issue number for you.

They mentioned many beer bars and beer-centric restaurants.  Definitely makes me want to visit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imbibe had a recent issue that really explored the Vancouver bar scene really well.  It&#8217;s at home now but I&#8217;ll try to dig up the issue number for you.</p>
<p>They mentioned many beer bars and beer-centric restaurants.  Definitely makes me want to visit!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vancouver, 2 years later by CapFlu</title>
		<link>http://oakes.hoppress.com/2010/02/25/vancouver-2-years-later/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>CapFlu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would even expand to say the Canadian scene has been steadily improving - Nova Scotia, Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia all have microbreweries that are putting out consistently good standard fare and some exceptional seasonals.

On Vancouver Island, Driftwood Brewery has really struck a note near my heart. Rarely do they falter, their mainstays are really good on draught and the winter barleywine Old Cellar Dweller is prepared to make it onto the RB Top 50, as it only has 8 ratings but a whopping 4.11 average.

Cheers to a few good years and hopefully many more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would even expand to say the Canadian scene has been steadily improving &#8211; Nova Scotia, Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia all have microbreweries that are putting out consistently good standard fare and some exceptional seasonals.</p>
<p>On Vancouver Island, Driftwood Brewery has really struck a note near my heart. Rarely do they falter, their mainstays are really good on draught and the winter barleywine Old Cellar Dweller is prepared to make it onto the RB Top 50, as it only has 8 ratings but a whopping 4.11 average.</p>
<p>Cheers to a few good years and hopefully many more!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2010 Winter Olympic Beer Guide to Vancouver by romeogolf</title>
		<link>http://oakes.hoppress.com/2010/02/11/2010-winter-olympic-beer-guide-to-vancouver/comment-page-1/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>romeogolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 23:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of going to Alberta House, I would go to Dix whose brewer is an Albertan -- better beer, better value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of going to Alberta House, I would go to Dix whose brewer is an Albertan &#8212; better beer, better value.</p>
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